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What now? - Confused

I have heard such wonderful advice and analysis - so I figured I would tell my story out of curiosity and desperation for answers. My boyfriend of 7 years broke up with me in February. I have to admit it wasn't a shock - except that he did it before I did. We had been having problems for about a year. It started Valentine's Day last year. He had taken me out to dinner and we went back to his place. After we made love, he says that he wants us to stop seeing each other for a while. Confused and hurt I didn't know why he was doing this. He told me that he needed time to think becasue things were getting so close to us getting married, that he wanted to be sure he was ready - he assured me that I was the one he wanted and I shouldn't be insecure about that fact. He said he didn't want to see other people during our break and asked that I didn't see people either.

Trusting that he was doing this to prepare for a life with me, I graciously stepped back and waited - - and waited and waited - he just wasn't coming back to me. It had been a couple of months and he called to ask if I could pick up something for my mom at his house. When I got there, things were so awkward - but great! He was so happy to see me and kept on hugging me and telling me how much he had missed me and was so nervous to call... it was an excuse to get me to come over and it worked. I was very careful as to not go too crazy, but I was so in love with him - and I wanted to make love... we did and it was wonderful. It continued for a week straight. Then one night - for some reasson, I assked if he was seeing someone. He said Yes. I was so upset I threw up. He swore to me up and down that it was over - he wasn't going to see her ever again. I believed him - - until about 2 weeks later, I showed up at his house - I was in the area and was going to surprise him. I walked in to find him in the living room with her. He panicked and so did she. Especially since I knew her. He eventually broke it off with her and it took MONTHS before I would look at him in the eyes. Here we are a year later and back to the same thing. He broke up with me for the SAME EXACT reasons and I found out he is seeing someone.

Now, he is calling me again and wants to be with me, but only in a sexual capacity. We were so in love. He came very close to asking me to marry him in January and now look where we are. We occassionally see each - when it's convinient for him and all he wants from me is sex. I am blown away by this whole thing. I really wanted to spend my life with him. I want him and miss him so much... but recently, when i am with him, I have no sexual attraction for him - I can't even kiss him. Yet I miss him terribly when i am not with him. The 7 year relationship was FAR from perfect. We did love each other and LIVE for each other for some time . For some reason he cheated on me 3 years ago and it hasn't been the same since. I know he has been with other women. Do I walk away and salvage what is left of my dignity and sanity? I know he sees what he is doing to us. And I know he doesn't want to hurt me or lose me forever. How do I walk away and make him realize what he has lost without being depressed forever????? He still says that he wants to marry me, but isn't sure when he wants to get back together. He claims he doesn't know why he feels that way because he loves me more than anything in the world. Huh???

From: Amberle

Well, I certainly feel for you. I want to just say that from what you have written, you think that marrying him would be a mistake. You even say that you have no sexual attraction for him anymore. I'd almost say this is a good thing, because it makes it easier to refuse his advances. I can understand how long-term relationships, if they go bad, are still hard to break off. I think it would be best if you never see him again. A clean break might be easiest. (And hardest.) I think you answer some of your own queations in your post better than anyone else can. I wish you the best of luck and strength to do what you decide is best.

From: Diane

Wow, I'm astounded at your patience with this person! I think that the devotion and unconditional acceptance you show for him should be re-directed back towards you. At this point, I would suggest not focusing on a solution to the external situation (which is all that it is), but focusing on the unfolding inside of YOU. The ole "should I stay or should I go" IS a struggle, but take a step back, perhaps get into some self-help meetings where others are having the same struggles, (I find these to be of immediate relief) and be extra kind and patient with yourself.

Though I don't know the situation totally, I do believe that some quiet reflection, some time spent with people who truly care, and perhaps some self-help books on co-dependency and other relationship issues would be a good place to get started. Invest in yourself, re-capture your self-esteem and your self-respect. You'll be surprised at how tables will turn, and the answers will seem so blatantly obvious at that point.

The most wonderful gift you could give yourself is to grab this opportunity to learn about yourself, run with it, and don't ever, ever stop. Be cautious and aware. Listen. Above all, be gentle with yourself.

From: Bernd

“I have her but something still feels missing inside”. When a guy (or girl) is sooooo close to having the kind of love they dreamt they’d have one day, but yet it still doesn’t “feel” complete, it sets up one heck of a dilemma inside. They don’t know where that leftover feeling of emptiness is coming from, so they set off on a frantic search to try and find out. There’s at least a couple of fears at work here: what if “you’re really “the one”? Or what if “the one” is still “out there”? If he finds out the first is true in his search, then he’s very afraid of screwing up that dream that he was so close to. So he does whatever he can to try to keep you from moving on. He tries to buy time. And if “the one” is still “out there”, he is in a race against time to find out “what’s missing” in your relationship, so that he can let it go with the least damage to you and him.

I had a very similar struggle in my first serious relationship that began in high school. Something felt as if it was missing, and I had no idea why. I had no idea that it could be something inside ME, that I needed to heal, and that no relationship could ever fill for me until I took responsibility for healing it. He is telling you what you want to hear. You BOTH are looking at his feelings of emptiness as a reflection of the love the relationship has. But those feelings of fear and emptiness inside him come from a place that existed before your relationship. The real danger to the relationship isn’t those feelings; it’s how both of you are reacting to those feelings. If you can find help and support to help you look more realistically at what he’s doing, and why, - as well as how you’re reacting to it, and why - it will help you find solutions that take better care of YOUR well-being and feelings. That is the best thing you can give him and yourself.

One of the real struggles here is honesty. The more he feels that you’ll leave him if he’s totally honest, the less honest he’s going to be. That’s the dilemma. Creating a safe climate for honesty may mean going thru excruciating pain when he tells you something that hurts right to the core. But if it’s YOUR choice to risk feeling that pain, it will be a lot easier in the long run to find out what that pain is trying to teach you, and to transform it into wisdom and self-love. If he decides not to be honest, that’s his choice. Simply being able to be more okay with such honesty will help you a lot in your next relationship. Love works in multiples. In finding ways to support more honesty from him, you’ll also find you’re able to be more honest with yourself. He HAS lied about some pretty important things, and he DOES have very strong feelings for you (we don’t go thru the agony of trying to straddle the picket fence for people or things we don’t care about).

My sense is you are trying to find an explanation to everything that KEEPS you from feeling the agonizing pain of the truth, or truths. It’s only when you acknowledge the full truth of those things you already know inside, and accept that there’s simply some things you’re unable to understand yet, that you’ll be able to process and deal with the pain it’s unleashed. That pain and fear now are like jackhammers in your head; no matter how much you try, you just can’t find the “quiet” you need to really get in touch with what’s best for you. If you can focus on resolving that struggle inside you, it will give you a much better chance of resolving your struggles with him, in ways that leave both of you better off, whether you stay together or eventually split.

It was a big risk for me when I began telling Lynda things she hated hearing, and that at first she took very personally. I knew that I stood the real risk of her saying “the hell with this!”. But I also realized that the less honest I was with her about my REAL feelings, the more I was paving our future with hollow stones, that would someday crumble. I’d had enough of that route. I wasn’t willing to settle anymore for anything less than solid ground. It has paid off more than I could have ever imagined. Hope something here helps a little.

From: Confused

First of all, I just want to say that you really said some things that made me think... A lot of it makes sense. Especially when he tells me that he doesn't know why he has changed so drastically. He used to be such a loving and caring person who made me feel like the most important thing in his life. I strongly believe it has a lot to do witht the fac that his mother died a couple of years back. That is when I noticed the drastic change in his views on life and his priorities. I am still in love with the person he used to be - hoping everyday that he will go back to the way he was. I am in love with the shell of that person. I can't hold any feelings for anyone else because my love for the "old him" is so strong. I can't even love who he is now, becasue I feel like I don't even know him anymore. all in all, the replies I have gotten from my post have seriously had an imapct on my thoughts. They really hit home to the fact that I have felt like I will never find that love ever again - - I am hoping it will come back with him.

I am extremely scared of starting over - it was 7 years of my life that have had such a big impact on who I am today. I am 25 and it feels like my life is starting over. It's scary. I just feel he needs me - something to hold on to in his struggle for HIS lost identity. He loved his mother more than anything and feels like he is lost without her in his life. Yet, I have been his best friend, as he has been mine, and I will miss that friendship terribly. But I realize now that I need to do what is best for MY well being. I have become lost as to who I am and now I must look for that - the only way, is to let go of the one thing that makes me feel insecure - I am always wondering "what is wrong with me? - what did I do wrong?" - it takes it's toll... Thanks everyone - especially you Bernard - you have given a point of view that makes me finally understand the confusion and sheer pain of what I have been going through... Thank You =)

From: Bernd

His mom's death certainly sounds as if it had a major impact on his life.

I'm going to give you some food for thought. I used to love Lynda because of who she was, and the things I liked and loved about her. Now I view love differently. I love Lynda simply because she EXISTS - that the mere fact she is alive makes her worthy of any and all love that I'm capable of. This has freed me tremendously, because it means the love I feel isn't tied to whether she changes, or how she changes. It doesn't matter. She is free to be exactly the type of person she needs to be, even if she has or takes on some trait I may not like. ZBut if she has an "imperfection", is it her imperfection that's the problem, or my perspective of it?

I don't know if this new way is better for anyone else. It has certainly made a huge difference in MY life. Not only has it freed me to love in ways I was never able to before, but love always gives back more than you give out. I have been treated with the same kind of acceptance from Lyna, and let me tell you, it feels sooooooo good - cause I'm NOT the easiest man in the world to live with. Far from it.

Anyway, if anything in here creates echoes inside you, it may give you something new to explore looking at in this relationship, or future ones. Just a few thoughts that came to mind.

From: Confused

Thanks for the other perspective... I Used to be a person that was extremely open minded - I always give people more than their share of second chances. However, he took advantage of that - I accepted his faults - (as I would expect him to accept mine) - but when it starts to hurt me in ways that are unbearable - and they continue - that is where I draw the line. His changes are not just small. They are like night and day. he is nasty, spiteful, bitter, extremely selfish and self centered, cocky, and downright mean at times. He told me once that he doesn't care about my feelings when it comes to the things he says and does - he says he doesn't have time to worry about that all the time. He never used to be like this. I will accept him for all he is - but not for the side of him that has taken over. I still love him and adore him - as you would say - because he EXISTS - I don't think anyone would have put up with what I did because they liked it... He is the love of my life. I can't just forget that. But I would start to label his behavior as becoming abusive - mentally. In trying to accept this side of him, I became depressed, reclusive and disfunctional at work and in my personal life. But I just can't let go of him.

Thanks for everyhting - You're a very generous person to be giving advice like this. It helps more than you know to be able to talk about it with an "outside" source. Thanks again =)

From: Bernd

I think you are bang on, in not accepting unacceptable behavior directed at you. The more I can focus on another person's CHOICES that I don't like (when they are directed my way), the more I can take steps I need that help me refuse to be a doormat.

When Lynda and I were going thru our hell, it affected our kids a lot. The past still does, and they all have a well of anger and pain that each of them is trying to heal. My alanon helped me distinguish between choices, and people. There were times that each of them really tore into me, spilling out their frustration and anger. It hurt plenty when they did, and there were many times I reacted with anger and frustration of my own.

What helped me most tho was - little by little - being able to respond "I don't deserve this treatment from you, and I WON'T ACCEPT IT". I told them I'd listen to what was bothering them, but I wouldn't be a dumping boy. And there were times I left the room, to take care of myself. They hated it. But eventually, they learned that I wouldn't let them dump on me, and they began finding other ways to express their anger, that was better for ALL of us.

By keeping the focus on what I wouldn't accept, I didn't need to tell them they were "wrong" or "bad" for yelling and dumping. And my example has rubbed off - now in their relationships with friends and girlfriends/boyfriends, they have been more able to do the same kind of thing, instead of engaging in a war of words.

Try to focus a bit more each time on the choices you don't like, and reaffirm your right to not be a doormat. Then, find the best solution you can for the moment, and beyond, that will help you take care of your well-being, without needing him to change anything. The more you need change from him, the more you place your serenity in his hands. That's the key. Day by day, step by step. That's all I've ever been able to do.


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