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Making changes - Anne

I am an overweight 40 year old, married for 17 years and have a 15 year old son. My problems are many, depression, I'm taking medication, zoloft for the last 12+months. I am also pondimin for my weight problem. I am also feeling afraid that life is passing me by. I work and make decent money, my husband earns a very good salary and we live comfortably. I am feeling that the only true relationships in my life are my family, father, mother and brothers and I want to move closer to them. This means my husband would have to quit his job and find something else that does not pay as much. I am also feeling very unsexual. This is driving him crazy, we have not had sex for over six months. It is just that I can't even feel sexual with anyone. I fear that I will lose my husband, either divorce or to another woman. I know he loves me very much, perhaps too much. We get along well, talking and going places, yet when he wants to initiate sex I can't and usually run away, emotionally and sometimes physically. I don't want to feel this way. Why do I? Am I trying to make to many changes at once? Do I want to be free of my responsibilities to my family? I can't seem to come to grips with any feelings I have. I certainly do not understand them. Is there any others who have had the same or similar experiences?

From: Bernd

I want to reply to this as soon as I can, because I can hear the hopelessness and despair you feel. Hang in there. Can you tell me if you had to dealt with any forms of sexual abuse as a child, including direct abuse or growing up in a sexually dysfunctional home (a parent having affairs, for eg.)? Also, as far as you can tell, does anyone in the family or close relatives struggle with any kinds of addictive behavior? Lastly, has there been any significant changes in your life over the past year that preceded your change in sexual interest? In looking for answers, sometimes the clues we need lie in places that don't jump out at us at first.

Hang in there. I have depression too, and it's no picnic at the worst of times, let alone the best of times.

From: Anne

yes to the addictive behaviour. I believe alcohol was a big part of my problems in my 20's. I would drink and not remember things. During college it led to me being raped. this was done by someone who I knew but was not interested in. One of my brothers is definitely an addict. Mostly when he was young, lots of different drugs and alcohol. My other brother is a pot head. My other brother is a workaholic. As for abuse in my immediate family, physically no. Emotionally, my mother was not very close to me and my father worked a lot. Both are very opinionated. Old school, lots of denial, especially when we were children. For the last ten years or so I have sworn off drinking, however in the last couple of months I have started to drink again and smoke pot.

From: Bernd

My gut feeling is that one of the biggest sources of your struggles is biochemically based, not “emotional” as I suspect you’ve been fearing. You have a real mixture of biological interactions going on in your body - drugs (zoloft, pondimin, alcohol, marijuana, and certain kinds of food), and your inherited biological predisposition's to depression and addiction. This is on top of what I suspect is a combination of beating yourself up emotionally over your weight and your seeming “failures” in your marriage, the unhealed pain from a difficult childhood, and the pain still unhealed from your rape many years ago. Individually, each one of these is “manageable” with enough willpower, but together, they are like straws that together become a weight so heavy, at some point you find yourself emotionally and physically drained from exhaustion.

Now, what to do? First, accepting that part of your emotional struggles are really biological, not “mental” problems, can help you let go of some of the guilt I know you feel. All the therapy in the world won’t stop someone with a cold from sneezing. Here’s how I see the biological factors:

- depression: there’s certainly plenty of evidence that a predisposition to depression is inherited. The depression itself may be triggered by emotional stress, but it’s much like having a low immune system. You and I have a lower tolerance for dysfunction in and around us, and we start feeling ill from it sooner than other people. Zoloft - if it’s working for you - is akin to a diabetic taking insulin; it helps restore the body’s ability to handle stress to more normal levels.

- zoloft: one of the common side effects of many antidepressants, such as zoloft, is a significant reduction in sexual interest and libido. An extreme comparison is someone taking chemotherapy and losing their hair as a side effect. There are some drugs available that can help reduce this unpleasant side effect. Another option is exploring other antidepressants (there are many) with your doctor, and seeing if you can find one that’s as effective, without as much side effects. I’d recommend, however, that you wait a bit to do so until you have given your body a bit more of a rest from the other chemicals it’s trying to handle - which are:

- pondimin: there are 2 possible side effects with this drug which may be exaberating your struggle with depression - loss of energy, and depression/anxiety. Both would add to your loss of sexual interest. I suspect as well that it might be counteracting some of the help zoloft is capable of giving you. I’m not a doctor, but I’d suggest taking a serious look at where your weight struggles and depression sit on your priority scale. My sense is that, unless your weight problem is seriously life threatening right now, treating the depression is going to give you the greatest benefits. My intuition also suggests to me that your struggle with depression IS becoming much more life-threatening than it appears on the surface. Your attempts to treat it with alcohol and pot are evidence of that. The more mind-altering moments you have in your life, the more danger you are in of making a choice that can have very unforeseen consequences, and the less able you are to spot danger from others, and take preventive action. Your rape, which happened during a period when alcohol became a major part of your life, is probably a very painful reminder of the latter. Treat depression as a serious PHYSICAL disease, because it is - it’s simply that it’s symptoms show themselves more emotionally. But then, have you ever seen someone dancing with laughter with a bad flu?:)

- alcohol and pot: no lecture here. It’s NORMAL that the predisposition to addiction in your family tree would make both of these drugs effective short-term treatment for depression. Huh? Yes, it’s no accident they are among the most common self-prescribed “drugs” used by people dealing with depression. They work. If they didn’t, we wouldn’t use them. That simple. The downside is that their side effects are horrible: loss of perception and reasoning, increasing tolerance (which means we have to keep upping our dosage to get the same relief), and a steady erosion of physical health. They also have a significant addictive side; when taken by someone with an addictive biological makeup, they change from being pain relievers, to pain bringers - and imprison the addict with horrific withdrawal pain, if they try to stop using.

- food: some of the medical research into obesity has shown clear evidence that overweight people, and people addicted to certain foods, metabolize and store food differently than those that don’t have weight struggles. Some foods are metabolized in ways that actually create natural narcotic-like chemicals in the bloodstream, which gives them a “high” from eating those foods, just like an alcoholic gets a temporary “high” from drinking. Combined with different metabolism rates and fat cell distribution and numbers, food becomes a minefield for such people. These are all PHYSICAL factors, and yet the overriding stigma still is that overweight people are that way because of lack of willpower/self-discipline, or emotional problems. When food gives a biological “high”, it also tends to work like any other mood-altering drug: the lows follow after it wears off, sometimes in a steep downward swing.

Now, you probably already know all, or much of what I’ve just mentioned. So here’s the picture as I see it. Before you can have any real success in dealing with your emotional turmoil, the physical side of your struggles has to be addressed as much as possible first. All the insight you get from others will help very little, if your mind and body are feeling terrible because of the battle of chemicals going on inside. Moving won’t change that.

I’d STRONGLY recommend getting in contact with both Overeaters Anonymous, and AA. Food and alcohol have been your main drugs of choice, and no matter how long you seem to abstain from them, their hold over your life remains as solid as ever. Take a serious look at how important the pondimin is to your physical health right now (if you are hoping weight loss will ease your depression, my guess is that it won’t be any more effective than trying to treat diabetes with penicillin). If you consider depression to be your biggest struggle, talk to your doctor about the pros and cons of delaying pondimin until you have more solid recovery from depression. First things first.

Depression support groups aren’t available in my area, but you may find some resources in yours. If so, take advantage of them. Depression is IMPOSSIBLE to manage alone; Lord knows I’ve tried. You CAN heal from many of its effects though - such as the shame, guilt, and self-kicking - and that healing will go a long way in making your depression something you can live with quite comfortably at some point in the future.

Now, a few other things. If you decide to reach out and get some help, you may find that the depression has helped mask some deep rage that’s still bottled up from your childhood and rape. Don’t be afraid of this. It will come when it’s time, and you will be ready for it when it does. Your soul has a very wise way of pushing you as far as you’re capable, but never over your limit. Don’t dread it, don’t wait for it. First things first; focus on your most immediate priorities, and let the future happen the way it needs to. You’ll find in hindsight that each step of the way was exactly what you needed, when you needed it, and when you look back on your recovery path, you won’t want to change a thing. That’s how it works. We just don’t have the benefit of a crystal ball to see that beforehand.

Your sexual struggles SEEM to be the “main” problem - or one of them right now - but maybe a more helpful perspective is to look at it as a natural side-effect of the zoloft, and the tip of the iceberg. It makes a lot of sense to me that the thought of sex would set off panic in you, because you’d have to force your body to do something it doesn’t feel up to, and you’d have to be dishonest to yourself about how you really felt. I’ve hit periods where my sexual appetite just went and flew right out the window. What I find really helps is focusing on touching, and playing with Lynda, and gently but firmly asserting my right to own my own body and feelings. I don’t have to be sexually aroused to touch her sexually, or to hold her. If she wants something I don’t feel comfortable giving, I’m more comfortable now saying “no” - gently but firmly. It wasn’t easy getting to this stage - lots of talking, being scared, and hurt feelings on both our parts, but each time we hang with a “problem” when it comes up, and take the time to really talk and TRY and understand each other’s feelings, we find we discover some new ways of looking at things, and the relationship gets easier and we both feel safer and more secure. I HAVE to risk saying how I feel, and really listening to her too. I’ve found that “no risk” is actually “high risk”. When I don’t risk sharing how I really feel about something, Lynda never gets a chance to understand - and I never get a chance to really understand HER feelings in return.

If your husband will give you “permission” to tell him exactly how you feel, when those panicky sexual feelings come up, and support your right to say “no” when you need to, it might help you feel a lot safer being close to him. See if you can begin exploring other kinds of sexual intimacy, such as stroking his body or face while he pleasures himself, or having “verbal” sex with him (where you take him in a spoken fantasy, and do your ravishing with words). Give yourself permission to experiment, and finding out how powerful the sense of simple TOUCH is to you, and him. I find the ends of my fingers to be one of the most sensual areas of my body; the pleasurable feelings I get from them transcend the word “sexual”. They just feel incredibly wonderful, and pure, and safe. Annie, from my own experience, there is no way around risking true recovery - not if we want to find a way out of the “hell” our life seems to be heading closer to. We either heal, and begin living again, or we keep dying - one day at a time. Your and my depression is both a curse and a gift. It’s our body’s way of telling us very urgently that we have been dying a slow death all our lives. Pain becomes our only hope of crying out in despair and turning toward the path of healing we’ve been terrified to embark on for so long. But that path is our only salvation. And as difficult as it seems, it’s only because we’re crawling OUT of the swamp others led us into that the way seems so difficult. But a funny thing happens as we go down that path. Our souls and hearts begin to grow wings. The further along we get, the lighter our feet become, and one day we look back in wonder, and see how much our life has changed. And we look forward in even more wonder, because we keep discovering a magic in our souls we thought had long been lost.

You have that waiting for you too. The medical profession is still in its infancy in how it deals with depression, and food and alcohol addictions. The real specialists are out there, but not in the hospitals. You’ll find them in 12 step meetings, or in support centers. They’re the ones that have walked the walk, and have hope back in their hearts. You are doing THEM a favour when you see them. Because one of the neat things about recovery, is that you can only keep it when you keep giving it away. Do them a favour girl.:)

Hope something here helps a little.


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